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Why Patients Say “No” to Chiropractic Care (And the 4-Step Framework That Changes Everything)

Episode Notes:

Patients rarely say “no” because they don’t need chiropractic care.

More often, they say “no” because they haven’t yet overcome the fears or questions standing in the way of saying “yes.”

In this episode we explore Dr. Noel Lloyd’s proven system for handling patient objections without sounding pushy, defensive, or sales-focused.

You’ll discover:

  • Why defending your clinical recommendations often makes objections worse
  • The psychology behind the “Dirty Dozen” patient objections
  • Dr. Noel Lloyd’s simple four-step objection handling framework:
    • Acknowledge
    • Clarify
    • Reframe
    • Ask for a decision
  • How to respond to objections about cost, insurance, time, and maintenance care
  • Why role-playing objections is essential for building team confidence
  • How ethical leadership creates a culture of consistent patient communication
  • Practical examples your entire team can begin using immediately

Whether you’re the doctor or a CA answering the phone, this episode will help you create more trust, improve care acceptance, and help more patients receive the care they truly need.

[00:00:00] What if, um, what if everything you learned in chiropractic college about, you know, fiercely defending your clinical diagnosis is actually the exact reason your patients are refusing care? Oh, wow. Yeah. That is, uh… That’s a very uncomfortable question to ask. Right. But I mean, it gets right to the heart of the biggest disconnect we see in practice today.

Yeah. We are, uh, we’re diving straight into the deep end today. Yeah. So welcome to the Chiropractic Deep Dive, which is a part of the Successful Chiro podcast. Absolutely. And we’re bringing this to you from Five Star Management, your chiropractic consulting partners. So we are talking directly to you, the dedicated practitioner who is, you know, in the trenches every single day just trying to change lives while, while keeping the lights on.

Yeah. And as part of the Five Star Management team, we really have a front row seat to this core frustration that you face constantly. All the time. Because, you know, you invest heavily in your practice. You set great goals. You, um, you develop these incredible [00:01:00] clinical procedures. You look at a patient’s X-ray.

You identify the subluxation, the degeneration, and it’s like it is beautifully objective, right? Right. It’s right there in black and white. You can just point to it. Exactly. And there is this, um, I don’t know, this deep comfort in that precision. It feels like engineering almost. Hmm. You analyze the biomechanics.

You build this masterful corrective care plan, and you walk into that consultation room knowing just beyond a shadow of a doubt that you can change this person’s life. Yeah. You’re fully confident. You present the plan, and then the patient just looks at you and says, “Um, no.” Yeah. Yeah. Just no, and all of that clinical precision suddenly vanishes.

It’s out the window. Right. You step out of the realm of objective biomechanics, and you’re plunged into the, like the murky, unpredictable waters of human psychology. It’s the worst feeling. It is because frankly, a brilliant clinical solution means absolutely nothing if the patient’s fear or, you know, [00:02:00] financial anxiety or just simple misunderstanding blocks them from accepting it.

Yeah. You don’t get the agreement. You don’t get the appointment. You don’t get the commitment to care. Right. It’s demoralizing for the doctor, obviously. It’s bad for the clinic’s bottom line, and most importantly, it means the patient doesn’t get the healing they so desperately need. Exactly. They stay sick.

So today our mission is really highly specific. We’re dissecting this brilliant masterclass Zoom training led by Dr. Noel Lloyd, and it is focused entirely on decoding patient objections and systematically guiding them to a confident yes. Yeah, and we need to be really clear right up front here. Um, guiding a patient to yes has absolutely nothing to do with like high pressure used car salesman tactics.

Oh please, no. Nobody wants that. Right. Dr. Noel Lloyd’s masterclass actually provides a psychological framework to help prospects make the right decisions for their health by addressing their hidden feels, you know, with empathy and structure. Well, the first step to solving any problem is a proper diagnosis, right?

[00:03:00] So let’s look at the symptoms of a no, and more importantly, the self-sabotaging traps we tend to fall into as practitioners when we hear it. The traps are the real problem. Yeah. According to the participants on this Zoom call, the objections we face, they can feel infinite when you’re stressed out, right?

Mm-hmm. But they actually boil down to about 12 core variations. Yeah. The participants actually refer to them as the dirty dozen. The dirty dozen. I like that. Oh, yeah. These are the ones that just echo through the hallways of every single clinic. You know, like, “I just can’t commit to coming in three times a week.”

Oh, yeah. Or, “I need to go home and run this by my spouse.” Right. Or, “My insurance says they won’t cover maintenance. It just costs way too much money.” Or the one that really, really stings. Oh, let me guess I feel great after those first two adjustments, so I’m just gonna call you when I need you. That’s the one.

Hearing that last one, I mean, it honestly feels like a personal insult when you know they need serious structural correction. It really does, but the actual [00:04:00] objection isn’t the primary problem here. It’s not. No, the catastrophe happens in how we react to the objection. The training highlighted a few massive errors clinic teams make.

First, there’s the trap of buying into the patient’s story. Buying into the story. Okay, how does that look? Well, it happens constantly, often because of the practitioner’s own internal imposter syndrome or maybe their own financial anxiety. Ah, right. So if a patient leans back, you know, crosses their arms and says, “Three times a week is a massive commitment,” a younger doctor or a front desk staffer might subconsciously project their own overwhelm.

And just cave. Yeah. They might reply, “Yeah, it is a lot of time. I know you’re super busy.” Oh, no. Right. Because in that split second, you have validated their excuse instead of validating the value of the care. You’ve essentially agreed that your own plan is an unreasonable burden. Exactly. You just shot yourself in the foot.

And then I guess you have the opposite end of the spectrum, which is just rolling over completely. Yep, [00:05:00] avoid it. The patient puts up a wall, and rather than investigating, the team member avoids the conflict entirely. They just say, “Okay, well, here’s our card. Let us know what you decide. Take care. Bye.” Which is a guaranteed lost patient.

100%. But I actually want to challenge the third mistake Dr. Lloyd brings up, which is getting confrontational and defending the care plan. Defensiveness. I mean, that is the most natural reaction in the world for a doctor. Exactly, which is why I want to push back on it. I mean, you spend years in chiropractic college.

You spent tens of thousands of dollars mastering your craft. Yeah, blood, sweat, and tears. You pored over this specific patient’s exams. When someone questions the validity of your recommendation, the instinct is to vigorously defend the science. Of course it is. So why is advocating for the medical necessity of your own plan considered a trap?

It’s a trap because of what it does to the patient’s nervous system. Really? Their nervous system. Yes. When you defend your position, you immediately [00:06:00] create a combative environment. You’re essentially telling the patient, “I am the expert, you are wrong, and your concern is completely invalid.” Wow. Put like that, yeah, it sounds bad.

Right. It triggers their fight or flight response. So you basically end up playing this intellectual tug-of-war. That tug-of-war is the perfect visual because when you pull hard on your end of the rope by defending the science, the patient is forced to pull back by doubling down on their excuse. Oh, right, because they dig their heels in to protect their ego.

Exactly, and the tragic part is that defensiveness completely blinds you to the true hurdle. Hmm. What do you mean? Well, a patient might say the plan is too expensive, right? But the reality might actually be that they simply don’t understand the long-term ROI of the treatment. Sure. But if you just aggressively defend your pricing structure, you never uncover that actual misunderstanding.

You’re fighting the wrong battle. That makes total sense. So if arguing triggers their defenses and rolling over just abandons them, we [00:07:00] clearly need a mechanism that disarms the patient before we even try to educate them. Which brings us to the core of Dr. Noel Lloyd’s strategy. It’s this four-part framework designed to handle these moments with, like, tactical empathy.

And the sequence of this framework is totally non-negotiable. Okay. Lay it on us. The very first move before you do anything else is to acknowledge. You just have to validate the human being sitting in front of you. So what does that sound like? You look them in the eye and say something like, “I totally understand,” or, “I can see why you would ask that,” or simply, “That makes a lot of sense.”

Okay, let me play devil’s advocate here because I know some chiropractors who would hear that and just panic. Oh, I’m sure they would. Because if a patient says, “This care plan is ridiculously expensive,” and my very first response is, “I totally understand,” doesn’t it sound like I’m agreeing that I’m overcharging them?

Yes, and that is the exact fear that keeps doctors from using this tool. Right. But there is a [00:08:00] massive psychological difference between validating an emotion and agreeing with a fact. Okay, break it down for me. Acknowledging is not saying, “You are right, I am too expensive.” Acknowledging is saying, “I hear you, and it is completely rational for you to be concerned about your finances.”

Ah, so it proves you’re on their side of the table. Exactly. You are treating them like an intelligent adult, which instantly defuses all that tension in the room. It lowers their shields. Yes, exactly. Once the shields are down, you move to the second phase, which is to clarify and investigate. Yeah. ‘Cause you can’t treat a hidden symptom, right?

You have to ask questions to unearth the root issue. You basically adopt a posture of genuine curiosity. So instead of taking the objection at face value, you lean in and ask, you know, “When you say it’s a big commitment, are you more concerned about finding the time in your schedule, or is it the financial investment?”

Oh, so you force them to categorize the fear. Exactly, because if you don’t know what the actual roadblock is, you are [00:09:00] literally just throwing solutions at a wall. Which leads perfectly into the third phase, reframe and redirect. So now that you know the real problem and they’re calm enough to actually listen because you validated them, you shift their perspective.

You educate them on the bigger picture. Right. If they’re hyper-focused on the fact that their acute back pain is gone after just two visits, you redirect them to the structural reality. Yes. You remind them that our goal isn’t just to put a Band-Aid on today’s symptom but to correct the underlying instability so they don’t end up back in this exact same pain six months from now.

You’re offering a lens they hadn’t considered, and once you’ve provided that new perspective, you must move to the fourth and final phase, which is ask for a decision. You can’t just leave it hanging. No, you have to bridge back to an action step safely and politely. Something along the lines of, “Knowing that we’re focusing on long-term correction, would you feel comfortable getting your schedule set up today?”

Perfect. It’s incredibly direct, but because [00:10:00] it follows those first three steps, it doesn’t feel aggressive at all. Not at all. And Dr. Lloyd uses this brilliant analogy in the source material for why this must be a systematized step-by-step process. He basically compares a highly trained clinic team member to a professional tennis player.

Oh, I love this analogy. So when a hundred mile an hour serve comes flying over the net, a trained tennis player doesn’t have to, like, stop- Analyze the wind speed, think about the angle of their wrist, and then decide what to do. No, there’s no time for that. They rely entirely on muscle memory. Right, and if they didn’t have that muscle memory, they would just freeze.

They’d stand there flat-footed and watch the ball go right past them. Which is the exact clinic equivalent of rolling over and saying, “Okay, let us know what you decide. Bye.” Exactly, or worse, they would get frustrated and throw their racket at the opponent, right? The ultimate temper tantrum. Which is the equivalent of a doctor getting angry, aggressively defending the X-ray, and making the patient feel stupid.

Right. [00:11:00] Instead, the trained professional just smoothly steps back, shifts their weight, and returns the volley. Acknowledge, clarify, reframe, ask for a decision. It just becomes one fluid, unbroken motion. Well, theory is great, but the real test of muscle memory is a live match. So let’s look at how the participants in the master class applied this four-part framework to some of the most notoriously difficult real-world scenarios.

Let’s do it. Let’s start with the ultimate polite smokescreen. I need to think about it. Oh, yeah. I need to think about it is almost never the truth. Never. It’s basically a delay tactic used by people who just hate conflict. So you start with validation to make them feel safe. You say, “I completely understand this is an important decision regarding your health, and you should feel completely comfortable.”

Notice the tone there. You aren’t sighing. You aren’t, like, tapping your pen impatiently. You are giving them genuine permission to feel hesitant. Then you clarify to pierce through that [00:12:00] smokescreen. Right. You say, “Just so I can make sure I’ve done my job properly, what specific part do you feel you need to think through?

Is it the timeline of the care, the financial aspect, or the treatment itself?” Oh, I love that. You are gently forcing them to name the ghost in the room. Exactly. Then comes the reframe. Our only goal here is to make sure you understand the root of your problem clearly enough to make a confident decision, whether that’s with us or somewhere else.

That reframe is incredibly powerful. You’re completely removing all the sales pressure. Yes. You’re positioning yourself as an educator whose only job is to provide clarity, which just sets up the ask perfectly. If we can get those specific concerns answered for you right now, would you feel comfortable getting started today?

Boom. You’ve taken a vague, invisible stall tactic and turned it into a concrete, answerable question. Okay, now let’s tackle the scenario that gives front desk teams actual nightmares. The hard boundary. Oh, boy. The patient looks [00:13:00] at their wall and says, “My insurance doesn’t cover this. I’m gonna go find an in-network provider.”

This is where the panic usually sets in because it feels like an impenetrable wall. But again, you lean on the framework, you validate the frustration. I completely understand. Dealing with insurance companies can be incredibly confusing and frustrating. Everyone hates insurance companies, so that’s an easy one to agree on.

Right. Then you clarify the root of the anxiety. Is your primary concern about having the insurance company’s approval, or is it strictly about managing your actual out-of-pocket expenses? And it is almost always the cash leaving their bank account. Every time. They don’t care whose name is on the card, they care about their monthly budget.

Exactly. Knowing that, one participant shared a masterful reframe that pivots on the harsh reality of modern healthcare. You explain very gently that even if they go down the street to an in-network provider, they are likely facing a massive deductible. Right. We’re talking five, sometimes ten thousand dollars before their [00:14:00] insurance even pays a single dime.

Yes. Plus, they might be restricted to only a handful of visits a year, which honestly won’t actually fix the structural issue anyway. So you’re dismantling the illusion that in-network automatically means free. Exactly. You’re replacing their fantasy with reality. That allows you to bridge to the action step.

You say, “Knowing that your ultimate health goals are the priority and that our clinic offers very affordable cash specials that completely bypass those high-deductible traps, which of our payment options makes the most sense for your budget today?” It’s masterful. You keep your health goals front and center while entirely neutralizing the insurance argument.

It works so well. Now, I want to look at a scenario that requires, like, pure psychological jujitsu, the combative myth. Okay, let’s hear it. A patient crosses their arms, glares at you and says, “I’m not signing up for this. Once you start going to a chiropractor, you always have to go. It’s just an addiction.”

Wow. When a patient says this, they are actively looking for a fight. They [00:15:00] are daring you to prove them wrong. And the overwhelming instinct is to fight back. To say, “That is a ridiculous myth. Let me pull out the research and show you.” But Dr. Lloyd suggests something so counterintuitive here. You just look at them calmly and you say, “I’ve heard that too.”

The psychology behind those four words is honestly astounding. By validating a combative, almost aggressive comment, you completely short-circuit the patient’s defensive posture. Yes. Because they braced for an argument, and you simply stepped over to their side of the table. You turned an adversarial confrontation into a collaborative conversation.

The wind just leaves their sails completely, and then you follow it up by clarifying, “What exactly do you mean by that?” You get them talking. Maybe they have a coworker who has been getting adjusted for seven years and claims they can’t live without it. Right, and then you reframe. You explain that clinical care plans in this office have a definitive start and a definitive end, which are designed to fix the underlying mechanical issue.

Yeah. But however, [00:16:00] many patients simply choose to transition to maintenance care because they love how their body feels when it functions optimally. It’s exactly like going to the gym. They aren’t addicted to the gym. They are making a conscious choice to maintain a healthy lifestyle. That is the perfect analogy, and then the ask.

Now that you know how our specific care plans operate, would you feel comfortable getting your initial schedule set up? It works beautifully. But as we analyze these scenarios, we do have to address the elephant in the room here. Okay, what’s that? It is one thing for an experienced doctor to memorize this script.

It is an entirely different universe for a front desk team member to execute it. Oh, without a doubt. That is the million-dollar bottleneck in practice growth. Right. Think about the empathy required here. You might have a 22-year-old front desk staffer facing down a grumpy, towering 50-year-old patient who is complaining aggressively about a bill.

That power dynamic is terrifying for the staff member. It’s awful. [00:17:00] How on earth do you get them to execute this four-step fluid motion without panicking when the doctor’s busy down the hall in an adjustment room? Dr. Noel Lloyd’s solution to this is brilliant because it entirely removes the fear of failure.

He gamifies the training. You have to build that collective muscle memory in a safe environment, which he actually calls the Objection B. The Objection B It sounds like treating your clinic’s communication the way a school treats a fire drill. Exactly. You don’t want your staff trying to read the evacuation map for the very first time while the hallway is actively filling up with smoke.

Right. That’s too late. You have to build the muscle memory on a quiet Tuesday afternoon when things are calm, so that when the alarm actually rings, panic doesn’t take over. Their training just kicks in. The fire drill analogy is spot on. The objection bee is run almost exactly like a school spelling bee.

You line the team up, and you run rapid fire practice objections at them, but you structure it carefully. How so? You train in groups of three. One person [00:18:00] plays the difficult patient, one is the team member handling the objection, and the third person is the evaluator. Oh, so this isn’t just casual role-playing where everyone claps at the end and says, “Good job, you did great.”

Five Star Management advocates for a strict certification process. Oh, absolutely. There is an actual 50-point scoring rubric for this drill. What are they grading on? Well, the evaluator is grading the team member on highly specific metrics, like did they maintain a calm tone? Did they effectively validate the emotion without actually agreeing to the excuse?

Right. Did they sound like a genuine, empathetic human being, or did they just sound like a robot reading a script? And most crucially, did they successfully bridge back to a clear action step? And the grading is tight, right? Out of 50 possible points, a 40 is technically a passing grade. A 40 means they got the steps right, but, you know-

maybe it felt a little clunky or rehearsed. Yeah, exactly. But to be officially five-star certified in objection handling, the staff member needs a 45 out of [00:19:00] 50. A 45 means it was smooth, it was empathetic, and it was professional. And there is a vital piece of actionable advice Dr. Lloyd stresses regarding this training.

Do not, under any circumstances, hand your team a manual with all 12 objections and expect them to learn it all at once. Oh, if you do that, you will bury that young front desk staffer under an avalanche of anxiety. It’s just way too much cognitive load. It’s paralyzing. Instead, you isolate the variables.

You pick three objections, just three. You practice them in the Objection B until every single member of the team hits that 45 out of 50 certification. So they build deep confidence first. Yes. Then, and only then, do you introduce three more. It creates psychological safety. But let me ask the critical leadership question here.

We’re focusing really heavily on the front desk and the staff practicing this fire drill. Right. Why is it so vitally important for the doctor, the clinic owner, who already knows how to talk to patients, to participate, memorize, [00:20:00] and use these exact same steps? Why can’t the doctor just delegate objection handling to the certified staff?

Ah, because of a concept Dr. Lloyd refers to as ethical authority. Ethical authority. Yeah. I like the sound of that. Your team is watching your every move. If you tell them they must strictly follow this four-step framework, but then they overhear you in the hallway getting defensive with a patient or steamrolling over someone’s concerns, you instantly lose all credibility as a leader.

You basically become a hypocrite. You do. You cannot ask your team to master a difficult emotional communication framework if you consider yourself above using it. That is so true. When the doctor takes the lead, when they step into that Objection B and practice the fire drill alongside the newest employee, it gives them the ethical authority to demand excellence from the rest of the clinic.

It creates a unified bulletproof culture of communication. You lead from the front. If you are returning the serve with perfect form, your team will mirror your form. Precisely. As we wrap up this deep dive, I really want to leave you with a [00:21:00] thought to mull over, something that fundamentally shifts how you operate tomorrow morning.

We spend so much emotional energy dreading patient objections, right? We view a no as a brick wall standing between us and successful practice. But what if we completely inverted that paradigm? I love this. What if an objection isn’t a rejection of your care at all? What if it is simply a poorly phrased request for reassurance?

Just think about the profound empathy in that perspective. When a patient says, “This costs too much,” they aren’t necessarily calling you a fraud. They might actually be saying, “I am terrified this isn’t gonna work, and I need you to reassure me that my financial investment in my health is safe with you.”

Exactly. An objection isn’t the end of the road. It is an invitation for a much deeper, more trusting connection with your patient. And when you meet their fear with the framework, when you acknowledge, clarify, reframe and ask, you are proving to them in real time that you are capable of holding their [00:22:00] anxiety and guiding them to safety.

You’re being the doctor they need. Remember how we started this conversation? We talked about the incredible comfort of looking at a perfectly clear X-ray and how chaotic it gets when you step into the consultation room. Uh, yes, the inescapable human element. You can’t adjust a patient’s spine until they are physically lying on your table, and they will never get on that table until you first adjust their hidden fears and misunderstandings.

This four-step framework is your clinical tool to bring precision and predictability back to that messy human conversation. It allows you to navigate those muddy waters and build a clear, confident path forward for the patient. Now, as part of the Five Star Management family, our goal is to help you implement robust systems exactly like this to streamline your clinic, remove the daily friction, and scale your impact.

Absolutely. So if you are tired of fighting with objections and you’re ready to start growing, you need to book a free clinic evaluation call with Dr. George Birnbach. He is an [00:23:00] absolute master at looking under the hood of a practice and identifying exactly where your growth is getting bottlenecked.

The link to book that free call with Dr. Birnbach is right down there in the show notes. It really is a phenomenal opportunity to get an expert outside perspective on the specific challenges holding your clinic back. Don’t skip it. And if you are serious about taking things to the absolute next level, we wanna personally invite you to attend our live two-day event happening in Chicago, Illinois on July 25th and 26th.

The event is called Streamline, Scale, Succeed. It is going to be amazing. We are gonna be diving deep into the exact frameworks that the most profitable high-impact clinics use to scale up without burning out the doctor. The link to register for Streamline, Scale, Succeed in Chicago is also provided in the show notes.

You truly do not want to miss the Chicago event. The energy in that room and the actionable takeaways you’ll bring back to your clinic on Monday morning are always game-changing. Finally, if you found today’s breakdown valuable, make sure you hit that [00:24:00] subscribe button for more practice-building tips right here on the podcast.

And keep practicing that muscle memory with your team. Acknowledge, clarify, reframe, and ask. Until next time, keep your conversations as aligned as your patients.