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Many chiropractors believe the answer to growth is working harder.
The reality?
Most practices don’t have a marketing problem—they have a systems problem.
In this episode of The Successful Chiro Podcast, we explore Dr. Noel Lloyd’s practical framework for eliminating unnecessary stress while creating a practice built for sustainable growth.
You’ll learn:
[00:00:00] Imagine a patient walks into your clinic and, you know, they’ve got this massive subluxation in their lumbar spine. Right, a really severe one. Exactly. And they don’t just feel it in their lower back, right? Right. Their entire body compensates for it. Yeah, their gait shifts, their shoulders round forward.
Their neck stiffens up. I mean, by the time they actually realize how much pain they’re in, that original problem has created this whole cascade of structural failures. Oh, absolutely. And today we are diving into why so many high-achieving chiropractors are doing, well, the exact same thing to their own businesses.
Yeah, they really are. They’re building these practices that look highly successful on the outside, like maybe they have high volume and great revenue, but they are structurally failing on the inside. Because the foundation is just completely misaligned. Exactly. Well, welcome to the Chiropractic Deep Dive.
We are a proud part of the successful Chiro podcast family, and this is brought to you by Five Star Management, a premier chiropractic consulting [00:01:00] company. We’re so glad to have you in the Five Star Management family with us for this session. Yeah, it’s great to have you here. And you know, the reality for a lot of you listening right now is that you are dealing with the very real, very intense stress of practice growth.
It’s exhausting. It is. You’ve hit this plateau- Yeah … where simply working harder or, you know, seeing more patients and grinding longer hours, it just isn’t working anymore. Right. You’ve reached that point of diminishing returns. You’re trying to scale a compromised system. Which never works. So the solution we are unpacking today comes directly from a recent highly exclusive mastermind Zoom call, and this was led by Dr.
Noel Lloyd. Yeah, and the really interesting thing is that the entire focus of this Zoom call wasn’t on, like, flashy new marketing hacks. Right. It was strictly on mastering the basics. Just the basics. So our mission today is to extract the vital insights from Dr. Lloyd’s call, break down why these basics often fail, and give you the blueprint to rebuild a rock solid, stress-free [00:02:00] foundation for your practice.
I love that. And you know, the temptation when talking about the basics is to just jump right into the tactical stuff. Yeah. Oh, for sure, like scheduling systems or, uh, staff training. Exactly. Overhead metrics, all that. But Dr. Lloyd kicked off this mastermind by stopping everyone from doing exactly that.
Yeah, he set the mental framing first. And he used this biomechanical analogy that really illustrates the reality of practice growth. The orthodontics one, right. Yes. He compared the success journey to orthodontics. It makes so much sense when you think about it. I mean, think about the physical mechanics of braces.
Right. You don’t go under anesthesia for some overnight radical surgery and just wake up the next morning with a perfectly aligned smile. I wish, but no. Right. It’s this process of compounding micro changes. It’s a series of really small, highly intentional, and let’s be honest, sometimes physically uncomfortable adjustments made over a long period of time.
Yeah. Anyone who’s had braces knows that ache. Exactly. [00:03:00] And Dr. Lloyd explained to the group that a true mastermind functions the exact same way. It’s about showing up, sharing a win, bringing a specific question, and then choosing just one actionable step to implement. Because that slow compounding interest is what actually shifts the structural health of a clinic.
Totally. You know, what really stood out in the source material was how the participants on that Zoom call defined the end goal of those micro adjustments. Oh, yeah. This was fascinating. Right. Like when asked what success actually looked like, they didn’t just rattle off vanity metrics. It wasn’t just, “Oh, I wanna hit 50 plus visits a day,” or, “I wanna double my revenue.”
No, the metrics were heavily weighted toward gaining intense clarity and crucially actually enjoying the daily process. Which I think sounds like a really soft metric to highly driven people. Oh, it definitely does, but it is actually the most critical leading indicator of practice health. Dr. Lloyd shared this really [00:04:00] jarring story to drive this home.
The doctor who threw up. Yeah. He described a doctor he knew who physically threw up every single morning before going to work. Wow. Let’s just pause on that image for a second. It’s intense. It really is. A highly trained professional, physically sick at the thought of entering the clinic they built with their own hands.
It, it really challenges this whole pervasive hustle culture in our industry. It completely dismantles it. Yeah. I mean, it seems like if you prioritize revenue over your own sanity, you aren’t really building a business. You’re just constructing a high-paying cage for yourself. Right. And because the bars are made of gold, you convince yourself you’re successful.
Exactly. But your nervous system keeps the score, you know? The psychology behind this is just so interesting to me. High achievers often fall into this trap of thinking suffering is a prerequisite for success. Yes. They white-knuckle their way through the day. Assuming the chronic stress is just the natural cost of doing business.
But Dr. Lloyd was telling the group that [00:05:00] if your practice feels like you are eating a dirt sandwich every day, well, you have fundamentally failed at the basics. A dirt sandwich, yeah. Enjoyment isn’t a byproduct of success. It’s the operational fuel you actually need for sustainable success. That is such a good reframe.
So if sustainable energy and enjoyment are the ultimate goals, we have to look at the friction points, right? Mm-hmm. Like, what is the primary mechanism that just drains a doctor’s energy and destroys clinic morale on, say, a random Tuesday morning? Well, according to the participants in Dr. Lloyd’s decades of observation, the number one destroyer of joy is the doctor failing to stay on time.
Really? Just running late. Yeah. When the doctor runs behind, the stress just cascades outward. It’s not just about patients getting annoyed in the waiting room, though that happens. It’s about the cognitive load on the practitioner themselves. Oh, I can imagine. That cognitive load is massive. You’re trying to be fully present with the patient on the table right in front of you.
[00:06:00] Right. But in the back of your mind, your brain is doing mental math about the three people up front, plus that complex reevaluation you have scheduled in 10 minutes. It’s a state of constant context switching. Yeah, which is exhausting. It is. Context switching drains glucose from the brain faster than almost any other mental activity.
You have to mentally close one file, like the adjustment, and then open a completely different file, the new patient evaluation, every five minutes. So you are exhausting yourself before you even apply a physical thrust. Exactly. So the first foundational skill they tackled to combat this is ruthless time management.
Specifically utilizing a strategy called power hours Power hours. Okay. Break that down for us. So these are fiercely protected blocks of time, say a three-hour run from 4 p.m. to 7.0 p.m., and it is dedicated strictly to adjustments. Just adjustments. Just adjustments. No new patient evaluations- Yeah
no lengthy reports of findings, pure rhythmic adjusting. Okay, I hear this and I think, well, [00:07:00] handing over a solid three-hour block to rapid-fire adjustments sounds, uh, great in a textbook. Yeah. But in reality, patients aren’t widgets on an assembly line. They have unique, unpredictable needs. Mm-hmm. Doesn’t a rigid power hour make the practice feel a little too mechanical?
Yeah. I mean, how do you maintain the human connection when you’re effectively racing the clock? That is the most common pushback, especially from really empathetic practitioners. They fear the boundary will feel cold to the patient. Yeah, exactly. But let’s look at the psychology of the patient experience.
When you don’t have boundaries, you are constantly putting out fires. You end up rushing through an adjustment because you know a new patient is waiting next door. And the patient definitely feels that rushed energy. Right. That frantic energy is what actually feels cold and mechanical to them. Hmm.
Conversely, if you have an impenetrable boundary around a power hour, it creates a protective container. A container. I like that. Yeah. For those three hours, you don’t have to switch mental gears. You can [00:08:00] breathe, you can be incredibly present, and deliver high-quality care because the schedule itself is acting as a shield.
Wow. Okay, so the structure actually creates the freedom. Exactly. You aren’t worrying about the clock because the system is handling the clock. That makes total sense. Yeah. And to make sure the system is actually rooted in reality The participants on the Zoom call discussed a tactic called time studies.
This involves having a staff member track the exact minute a patient walks in and the exact minute they check out, just to find your true capacity. Because you cannot manage what you refuse to measure. Subjective feelings about how busy you are, they often lie to you. Ugh, all the time. I feel so busy today.
Right. But objective data does not lie. Once you have that baseline data, you need real-time feedback to stay on track. And one participant shared a remarkably low-tech, brilliant method for this. The sticky note reminder. The sticky note reminder. The mechanics of this are so simple, but they force immediate accountability.
So if you’re in a power [00:09:00] hour and you have a patient scheduled for, let’s say, 6:00 PM. Right. The staff writes the patient’s name- Mm-hmm … and 6:00 on a sticky note and just slaps it on the wall in your adjusting suite. Love it. So when you walk in to adjust that patient, you look at the note, you look at the clock.
If it’s 6:15 PM, you have objective math staring you right in the face. Yeah. You are 15 minutes behind. It completely removes the subjectivity. The sticky note doesn’t judge you, it just informs you. Yeah, it’s just a piece of paper. Exactly. It forces self-awareness in the moment, preventing a tiny five-minute delay from snowballing into a 45-minute disaster by the end of the shift.
But here is the friction point of that sticky note system, I think. Yeah. For a doctor to actually respect that note and respect the boundary of the power hour, they have to do something that goes against the very grain of their ego as a practitioner. Oh, absolutely. They have to surrender control of the daily flow to their staff.
Surrendering control is arguably the hardest psychological hurdle for any clinic owner. [00:10:00] Totally. So the next core strategy discussed on Dr. Lloyd’s call was radically empowering the chiropractic assistants, the CAs, to essentially dictate the doctor’s movements Which sounds crazy at first, but the logic makes perfect sense when you step back and look at the layout of a clinic.
It really does. The doctor is in the treatment room. They have tunnel vision on the spine directly in front of them as they should. Wow. But the CAs are at the front desk operating like air traffic controllers. They see the entire board, the waiting room dynamics, the incoming phone calls. They see the whole matrix.
One participant detailed exactly how this plays out in practice. They empower their lead CA to dictate the room order. Okay, so how does that work? If the CA tells the doctor, “Go to room four next,” the doctor goes to room four. You don’t argue. You don’t second-guess. You don’t say, “Oh, actually, I think I should see the patient in room two first.”
You just do it. So you simply execute the play. It really parallels the dynamic of an operating room. The [00:11:00] surgeon is performing the incredibly delicate, highly specialized work, right? But the head nurse runs the room. Exactly. The nurse manages the equipment, monitors the flow, anticipates the next move. A good surgeon doesn’t stop to argue with the nurse about the scheduling of the room.
They trust the system so they can maintain absolute focus on the surgery itself. And Dr. Lloyd summarized this dynamic with a crucial phrase. He said, “You must trust what you train.” Trust what you train. Yes. There will inevitably be moments where the doctor is told to go to room four, and it makes zero sense to them in the moment.
The key is that the debrief happens after the shift. Oh, I see. Yeah. Later on, the CA can explain, “Hey, the patient in room four quietly mentioned at the front desk that her babysitter canceled and she needed to leave immediately.” Wow. So if the doctor had let their ego take over and fought for control in that moment, insisting they needed to see room two first, the entire system bogs down.
Completely. That patient in room four leaves stressed, [00:12:00] the CA feels undermined, and the doctor’s cognitive load spikes again because they broke their own operational rules. Exactly. You empower the team, you trust the training, and you stay on time. Right. But here is the fragile part of that entire operating room analogy.
It relies entirely on that head nurse. Right, the lead CA. Yeah. If you have handed over all the logistical control to your lead CA and you wake up at 3:10 AM to a text that they have COVID- Oh man, the 3:10 AM text It’s the worst because your entire power hour system just evaporated Unless you have mastered the second basic skill from the mastermind, which is extreme flexibility and building the bench.
Yes. The participants used a sports analogy here that illustrates the concept perfectly You need to designate a first string, a second string, and a third string for every single critical position in the clinic. Because if a star quarterback goes down on the field with a torn [00:13:00] ACL, the coach doesn’t run around the sidelines in a panic asking the water boy if he knows how to throw a spiral.
Right. That would be ridiculous. The backup quarterback already has their helmet on. They know the playbook. They are ready to step in before the disaster even strikes. That pre-decision is the ultimate antidote to business anxiety. It really is. But let’s talk about the messy reality of implementation. How do you actually train a second or third-string CA without wasting dozens of hours of payroll or, you know, confusing the staff with overlapping duties?
Well, you do it through micro-exposures and intentional overlap. You don’t need the third-string person shadowing the front desk for forty hours a week. You use what they called spot checking. During a slow period, the first-string CA intentionally hands over a complex scenario like, say, a patient objecting to a care plan cost to the second-string CA just to keep their muscle memory sharp.
It’s smart. Yeah. It’s about keeping the specific skills warm without disrupting the [00:14:00] flow of the clinic. And they brought up a really fascinating cultural rule for this spot checking process. They said, “What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.” I love that phrase. Right. Which means accountability flows in both directions.
That is the absolute secret to overcoming staff resistance. Think about it. If a doctor suddenly starts spot checking the staff on their phone scripts out of nowhere, the staff will naturally feel micromanaged. Oh, yeah. Defensiveness goes right out. Exactly. But if you establish a culture where the staff is equally empowered to spot check the doctor on their time management, it changes the entire dynamic.
So if the doctor starts slipping over their allotted time in room two, the CA can just tap the door and say, “Hey, Doc, you’re five minutes over. Let’s tighten it up.” And the doctor has to accept it. That level of bidirectional accountability creates unbelievable trust. It removes the traditional hierarchy and replaces it with a shared mission.
But this introduces the final, and frankly, the most challenging aspect of Dr. Lloyd’s [00:15:00] framework. Yeah, the big one. Because you can have perfect power hours, a seamlessly empowered CA, and a deep bench of cross-trained staff, but eventually, a macro disaster will strike that no sticky note or backup schedule can fix.
Like a key associate leaving abruptly. Right. Or a massive personal crisis hits, or a global event shuts the doors. How does the practice leader handle the inevitable, unplannable curveballs? They handle it by mastering their own internal state Basics school number three is Dr. Noel Lloyd’s personal five-step mental and emotional routine.
This is where we transition from the mechanics of clinic management to the psychology of true leadership. Exactly. Because if the leader’s internal foundation is cracked, the external systems don’t matter at all. Dr. Lloyd shared that whenever he faces a massive curveball, he reflexively runs through a specific checklist.
Okay, what’s step one? Step one is purpose, deeply knowing your reason to be. For him, he articulated that his purpose is facilitating the success [00:16:00] and joy of others. Wow, that’s powerful. It is. When you ground yourself in the why, the daily frictional what’s just lose their power to derail you. Makes total sense.
What’s step two? Step two is counting wins. He is relentless about actively hunting for victories, big or small. Which is hard to do when things are going wrong. Very hard. The human brain is hardwired with a negativity bias. It naturally scans for threats just to ensure survival, so you have to intentionally train your reticular activating system to see the momentum and the positive data points.
I see. Which leads directly into step three, which I think is absolutely fascinating from a cognitive behavioral standpoint. Oh, I love this part. Right. Frame everything as a game. Yes. This was a standout moment in the source material. He told a story about kids complaining that a video game was terrible.
And why was it terrible? Because it was too easy. Kids actively seek out the hard levels. They want the challenge. Right. So Dr. Lloyd suggests that running a practice is the ultimate role-playing game, an [00:17:00] RPG. Think about the neurochemistry of threat versus challenge here. When a stressful situation hits your clinic, if you frame it as a threat to your livelihood, your brain just floods with cortisol.
Right. Your amygdala hijacks your rational thought process, and you freeze. Exactly. But if you frame it as, “Okay, this is just a boss level in the game. What mechanics do I need to learn to beat it?” The biological response shifts entirely. The stress actually becomes a stimulating challenge. Yes, one that releases dopamine when you overcome it.
Hard levels are what make the game worth playing. That reframe alone changes the entire trajectory of a bad month. It really does. So step four is never give up, and Dr. Lloyd shared a deeply intense story to prove this isn’t just, you know, motivational fluff. Yeah, this was intense. Years ago, the culture in one of his clinics degraded to the point where he had to fire his entire clinic staff, everyone.
Just imagine the sheer operational terror of that moment. Unbelievable. He was [00:18:00] completely alone. He had to run the front desk check-ins, process the complex paperwork, and physically treat the patients all by himself. Pulling twelve to sixteen-hour days just to keep the doors open. Most practitioners would have folded the tent right there.
The physical and emotional toll would just be too much. But because he had anchored his purpose and he treated the rebuild like a challenging level in a game, he rode out the storm, rebuilt a stronger team, and ultimately thrived. Which brings us to the final step, step five. Gather a group. Do not do it alone.
Gather a group, hence the existence of the mastermind. Exactly. Leadership, especially as a solo practitioner or a clinic owner, can be incredibly isolating. It’s so lonely sometimes. Your staff doesn’t understand the financial weight you carry, and your family might not understand the clinical weight. You need a room full of peers who speak the specific language and understand the unique pressures of the chiropractic profession.
That is so true. And this brings the entire [00:19:00] philosophy full circle. The structural mechanics of the clinic, the power hours, the empowered CAs, the cross-training bench, all of those external systems rely entirely on the internal emotional resilience of the leader. You build a strong foundation by redefining success to include your own joy.
You implement ruthless time boundaries, distribute control to a flexible team, and you maintain a bulletproof emotional routine to navigate the inevitable storms. Well said. So as we wrap up this deep dive, I wanna leave you with a final thought to mull over. We’ve talked extensively today about systems, boundaries, and schedules, but consider the biological impact of all this.
Right, on the patients. Exactly. Your patients are unconsciously mirroring the nervous system of your practice. Wow, that’s deep. If you are operating in a constant state of fight or flight, rushing frantically from room to room because you won’t surrender control to your staff, your patients cannot enter the parasympathetic state required to actually heal.
They just can’t. True time management isn’t just a strategy [00:20:00] for better revenue. It’s a clinical requirement for patient outcomes. Pre-decide your systems today so your clinic can be a place of healing, not a place of panic. What a profound challenge for every chiropractor listening. And listen, you do not have to figure out this structural rebuild in isolation.
If you are ready to stop scaling on a weak foundation and start mastering these basics, we have some incredible resources for you from the Five Star Management family. Yes, we do. First, you need to book a completely free practice growth call with Dr. George Birnbach.
Getting an expert objective set of eyes on your specific clinic’s bottlenecks is the absolute fastest way to implement these changes without the grueling trial and error. Without a doubt. The link to get directly on his calendar is right down in the show notes. Second, we want to enthusiastically invite you to get in the room with us.
We are hosting a live two-day event in Dallas, Texas this coming November 14th and 15th. I cannot wait for this. It’s gonna be amazing. It is actually two [00:21:00] massive events happening simultaneously under one roof. We have the New Patient Edge event, which is laser-focused on the mechanics of getting more new patients through your doors fast.
And running at the exact same time, we have the Win Win Associates event. Which breaks down our proprietary system for achieving more growth, more freedom, and true success with your associate doctors. Gathering that group, like Dr. Lloyd says, changes the entire trajectory of your practice. The energy at these live events is simply unmatched.
The link to secure your tickets for Dallas is also right there in the show notes. Grab them before they’re gone. For sure. Finally, if you got value out of our deep dive today, make sure you hit that subscribe button so you never miss out on more practice-building tips from our Five Star Management family.
Mm. Remember, you can’t align a spine by treating the symptoms, and you can’t scale a practice on a misaligned foundation. Start doing the structural work today. Thanks for listening, and we will catch you on the next deep dive.
Current and cutting edge guidance to profit and joy in practice. Glad to have finally found them. I made an extra 75k this year and am moving out of my own personal “Groundhog Day” hell toward a joyous life.
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I was a client years ago and just rejoined in Jan. 2018. Dr. Lloyd helped me learn how to attract and retain great patients years ago, and now with my new practice in Portland, OR. I'm super excited to be back with him and FSM. Thanks a lot Dr. Lloyd!
Best Organization ever. Very good and educated seminars. Dr Lloyd and Dr. Birnbach are the best.
Great program. Drs Noel and George provide powerful and highly relevant material that is current with changing times and tailored to our individual offices. I greatly appreciate the ability to grow while serving patients ethically and congruently.
So many ideas to promote my office. Like they say, if you can't find something you like on the menu, your not hungry!
I always look forward to going to the 5 star seminars to get recharged and callobrated for our office. In the previous 2 years we have grown personally and professionally in our practice with helping more people and having more fun! I am confident that we are able to train other Doctor’s and team members to be their very best. The steps are simple and Drs. Noel, George, and Leah are excellent and will help you with what you need! #bestdecision EVER!
Dr Lloyd is very precise and gives you the tools that can be valuable to not only uplift your practice but also improve the psyche to know that you can get to a target with his steps<br>Thank you for terrific weekend.<br>Dr Jignesh Bhakta. I would throw in a six star but they only allow 5.
Dr. Lloyd & Dr. Birnbach have been instrumental in providing us with the skills to make our practice grow. Thanks to their guidance we are on target to make our goals a reality. Thank you Five Star Management. You all are truly a class act operation.
Having great time at the new patient seminar. Dr. Loyd and Dr.<br>Birnbach dishing out great info.<br><br>Dr. Guyton
Fantastic work teaching chiropractors to expand their offices. Dr. Lloyd and Dr. Birnbach have been instrumental in helping us create the practice of our dreams and sharing chiropractic with our community!<br>Thanks<br>Dr. J
Five Star has changed my practice and my life. My stress is down, my success is up and my patients are happier than ever!
I love the seminars. Always great content to help a chiropractic or alternative medicine practice run smoothly. Thanks for your help!
Fantastic group! They helped me start a successful practice.
It is hard to imagine a better organization to coach and advise chiropractic businesses than Five Star Management. Every person at Five Star is available to whatever I need of them at the moment. I have valued my personal coaching relationship with Dr. Noel Lloyd. Everyone at my clinic knows that this year will be our best year ever in practice. Thanks to their guidance I have hired my first associate chiropractor and we are about to rip it up. No looking back!
Fivestar is a focused, step by step, approach to getting your practice in shape and then shooting for the stars.
Best year ever after best year ever, love this program. Thank you Dr. Lloyd!
Dr. Lloyd and Dr. Birnbach are fantastic! I learn something new every time I go to a seminar! They provide great feedback and offer resources to make your practice operate with ease! Thanks so much
I have been a member for 2 years. Since joining I have hired an associate, a community outreach assistant and had my first child with a 16 week maternity leave. I have had best ever numbers across the board and have helped more people than ever! Plus I have more time off to spend with my family. 5 star is hands down the best! Thanks Dr Llyod and the 5 star team because you guys rock!
Dr Noel Lloyd has been amazing to work with. He can help with any situation and can customize it for your office. Not the typical practice in a box only one way to do things. He's help make practicing fun again as well as increasing my profits.
Fivestar has helped me streamline my clinic procedures to provide excellent care to our patients in a low-stress atmosphere, with plenty of time for each patient. Thank you for helping me care for our patients better!"
My husband and I have been clients for two years. We have been thrilled with five star. The coaching is custom tailored to fit the needs of your practice and the vision that you have for your practice. Dr. Noel Lloyd, Dr.George Birnbach, Dr. Leah Meadows and their fantastic team do not have their own agenda. They listen to you and help you to reach your goals. The seminars are fantastic. I always come away with a very long to do list. The information is relevant to chiropractic practices today.We would highly recommend five star to any doctor looking to help more people, have more fun, make more money, or reduce their stress.
I've been a client for over 4 years now. Solid systems, solid support, great staff. I have tripled my my income in the last 4 years without working additional hours and the seminars help not only me, but help train and involve my staff. Dr. Lloyd, Dr. Birnbach, and Dr. Meadows are all truly committed to getting you to the next level and beyond. The clients in Five Star vary from the beginner to the seasoned multi practice owner with multiple associates making it relevant for just about anyone. Thanks for all your help!
My Name is Dr. Ricky Hanks. I have been in practice now fore 30 years.I am in my second year as a client in 5 Star Management. The whole team is amazing. The front line ladies of Amanda and Brittany are wonderful. The personalized coaching form of Dr. Lloyd is refreshing, caring, and based in chiropractic wisdom. Drs. George Birnbach and Leah Meadows add a special variety of marketing wisdom, business organization, and chiropractic office skills to the overall program. The 5 Star website is a virtual gold mine of wisdom and webinars that are taking me to the next level of excellence.<br><br>The whole 5 Star program has been an experience that has returned more than 10 times a ROI (Return on my Investment) in this program just in my first year.<br><br>Dr. Lloyd has been a compassionate, caring and understanding consultant/coach who has led me to be a better husband, father, grandfather,chiropractor,business owner, and person overall.<br>He has taught me to communicate better and more effectively with my team and my patients. His business/financial training has re-enforced that life is a fair and equitable exchange.<br><br>Have more Fun...Help more People...Be more Successful !!!<br><br>I highly recommend 5 Star to old veteran Chiropractors like me and especially young Chiropractors still in school or just fresh out of school. I only wish I had started with the Five Star Team 30 years ago!!!<br><br>Ricky L. Hanks DC