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Generating Leads Isn’t the Hard Part Anymore
The real challenge is turning those leads into appointments—and appointments into patients.
In this episode, we share the systems top-performing chiropractic clinics are using to improve follow-up, increase show rates, and create a more reliable flow of new patients.
In This Episode You’ll Learn:
Key Takeaway:
The clinics winning today aren’t necessarily generating more leads.
They’re simply doing a better job of converting the leads they already have.
Master your follow-up systems, improve your response times, and create a clear path from click to appointment—and you’ll immediately gain an advantage over most practices in your market.
[00:00:00] Imagine, uh, you’re out fishing with this massive, incredibly expensive net. Right. You buy the absolute best gear, you map out the perfect location based on your sonar, and you cast your net into the water. Mm-hmm. And almost immediately, you see the surface just boiling with fish. I mean, it is the catch of a lifetime.
Sounds perfect so far. Yeah. But when you finally haul that heavy net onto the deck to, you know, start pulling it in You realize there’s a giant tear right in the center. Oh, man. Yeah. The fish are just slipping straight through the mesh and going right back into the water, and you’re left standing there soaking wet, holding an empty net.
Just wondering why you spent thousands of dollars on the boat and fuel in the first place, right? Exactly. It’s, uh, it’s the ultimate frustration for any clinic owner. You know, you’re doing all the hard work of generating interest, paying for the clicks, getting the eyeballs. Yeah. And then you’re just watching those potential patients vanish before they ever actually reach the front desk.
Well, welcome to the Chiropractic Deep Dive. [00:01:00] Uh, this deep dive is a proud part of the Successful Chiro podcast, and it’s brought to you by Five Star Management. That’s right. As a chiropractic consulting company, you know, our entire mission here at Five Star Management is to help you, the chiropractor, succeed, scale, and basically build the practice you’ve always envisioned.
And today, we are focusing on exactly how to permanently repair- Yeah … that tear in your net. Yeah. We’re unpacking a really high level, uh, mastermind session recently led by Dr. Noel Lloyd. A great session. It really was. The entire focus of his session was solving that massive, painfully expensive problem, you know?
Spending your hard-earned money to generate online leads, only to lose them in that, uh, that murky abyss between their initial interest and actually walking through your clinic doors. Right. So the goal today is to really master the follow-ups, the scripts, and the systems to convert those clicks into scheduled paying patients.
Because that gap, you know, the gap between the click and the clinic is what drives a staggeringly high cost per show up. It burns [00:02:00] through marketing budgets, it honestly discourages your team, and it leaves your patient volume completely stagnant. Yeah, absolutely. But before we get into the, uh, the technical mechanics of Facebook campaigns or Google algorithms, we kinda have to look at the physical reality of a busy clinic.
Right. We have to address the execution gap. Because, I mean, you simply cannot fix a marketing bottleneck if the doctor is up to their elbows adjusting patients when a hot lead actually comes in. Exactly. The clinics that are scaling aggressively right now, they’ve undergone a massive mindset shift regarding response times.
Yeah. One of the participants in Dr. Noel Lloyd’s session framed it in a way that just, well, it completely changes the paradigm. Yeah. They train their staff to treat an online lead exactly like getting a text message from a close friend. Which is brilliant. Mm-hmm. Because if a friend texts you on a Saturday afternoon asking for help, you know, you don’t just file it away until Monday morning at 9:00 AM when the office opens.
Right. You’d never do that. You pull your phone out of your pocket and you text back immediately. Because [00:03:00] if a potential patient fills out a form on a Saturday afternoon They are in pain at that exact moment. Mm. They’re motivated. Oh, highly motivated. Right. So if your clinic waits 48 hours to reach out, that lead hasn’t just gone cold.
I mean, they’ve actively moved on to the clinic down the street that actually had a system in place to answer their phone on the weekend. Yeah. That delay right there is the tear in the net. It is. Now, most doctors know they shouldn’t be the ones answering the phones or, you know, tracking spreadsheets. We understand the whole who not how concept.
Sure. But the real fear clinic owners have is trusting someone else to speak for their practice. They worry the front desk is just gonna fumble the lead. Which is a valid fear. It is. So Dr. Noel Lloyd introduced this framework of the co-pilot. Right, the co-pilot. This isn’t just a basic admin assistant, it’s a highly specialized role, and the really fascinating part is that a dedicated team member acting as this co-pilot needs no more than 10 hours a week to manage this [00:04:00] entire lead ecosystem successfully.
And those 10 hours are highly focused. The doctor’s role in this equation drops to just a simple 10-minute weekly check-in. Just 10 minutes. Just 10 minutes. During that time, the doctor provides the clinical vision and the direction. Mm-hmm. But the co-pilot manages the execution. They set the guardrails.
I love that. Yeah. A participant actually shared the mantra their co-pilot uses, which is, “If you can dream it, we can do it.” Oh, wow. Right. But that comes with a critical filter. Right. The co-pilot acts as a strategic partner, taking the doctor’s ambitious ideas- Mm-hmm … and filtering them through what will actually generate leads efficiently, you know, without disrupting the actual patient flow.
Okay, let’s unpack this. I look at it like a, like a pilot and a navigator. Okay. It’s like trying to fly the plane while serving the peanuts in the cabin, you know? Yeah, that never works. The doctor needs to be in the cockpit setting the coordinates and focused entirely on flying the plane safely delivering the clinical [00:05:00] care, and the co-pilot is handling the air traffic control and making sure the passengers actually get to the gate.
You simply cannot safely fly the plane if you’re constantly jumping out of your seat to check the radar for new passengers. Exactly, and that separation of duties is what makes that 10-minute check-in possible. It completely removes the bottleneck of the doctor’s availability. So, okay, we have a co-pilot securely in place, guarding the phones and ready to treat leads like urgent texts from a friend.
Right. But what are we actually doing to make those phones ring in the first place? Because, I mean, the days of just blindly boosting a generic Facebook post and hoping for the best, those are long gone. Oh, completely gone. The digital foundation laid out in this session operates like a three-legged stool.
Okay. The strategy relies on actively managing paid Facebook ads, Google AdWords, and Google reviews. All three must be monitored daily. Wow, daily? Daily. But to fuel that engine, you need a predictable, realistic budget. The most successful [00:06:00] clinics are allocating a strict 3% of their gross collected money purely to social media ad spend.
Okay, let’s make that tangible for everyone listening. Hmm. If your clinic is collecting, say, $60,000 a month, that means $1,800 a month is dedicated strictly to your social media ad spend. Right. That is your non-negotiable fuel. Yes. And how they deploy that $1,800 on Facebook is incredibly specific. Very.
The clinics seeing the best returns are running 20 to 30 vertical videos at any given time, and these aren’t, like, heavily produced commercials. No, not at all. They’re shot on an iPhone, maybe with a basic lapel mic, and they run each individual ad at just $7 a day, letting it run for exactly seven days.
Yeah, seven days. Wait, I have to stop you there. $7 a day. I know. You can barely buy a sandwich for $7 anymore. As a clinic owner trying to bring in high-ticket patients- How is throwing pocket change at the Facebook algorithm going to move the needle? I mean, that sounds like a waste of [00:07:00] time. It really sounds counterintuitive, but it’s actually a highly sophisticated testing matrix.
Oh. You aren’t spending $7 a day expecting a flood of new patients. You’re spending $7 a day to buy data. Ah, buying data. Right. The Facebook algorithm is incredibly efficient at finding audiences if you give it enough variations to test. So by running 30 different iPhone videos at a micro budget, you’re forcing the platform to show you exactly which message resonates with your local market.
Without blowing your entire $1,800 budget on a single, you know, highly produced video that might completely flop. Exactly. I see. It’s basically like a sports team’s training camp. How so? Well, you bring in 30 rookies, your 30 new video ads. You put them through a grueling one-week $7 a day trial. Right. And you don’t commit a massive contract to any of them yet.
After seven days, you ruthlessly cut the underperforming rookies, and you take all of their budget and [00:08:00] reallocate it to the star players, you know, the two or three videos that are actually generating cheap clicks and quality leads. That captures the mechanics perfectly. Mm-hmm. And, uh, you mentioned heavily produced videos earlier.
It’s vital to point out that studio quality production is actually a detriment on social media right now. Oh, completely. Do we need a Hollywood studio? Absolutely not. People are practically blind to anything that looks like a polished television commercial when they’re scrolling on their phones. They just scroll right past it.
What stops the thumb is authenticity. Mm-hmm. The top clinics are intentionally leaving in the minor stutters, the awkward pauses, you know, the raw moments where a doctor is just speaking passionately into the camera. Yeah. It strips away that corporate veneer. A patient in pain wants to see a real empathetic human being who actually understands their problem, not an actor on a sound stage.
And the length of these authentic videos completely breaks the conventional rules of social media too. Oh, yeah. We’re constantly told that attention spans are like three seconds long, [00:09:00] and everything needs to be a hyper fast reel. Right. Yet, while some of these clinics do use punchy 90 second clips, one participant revealed their most successful ad is an eight-minute treatment walkthrough video.
Eight minute. Wait, really? Eight minutes. Who is watching an eight-minute chiropractic video on Facebook? Someone who is in chronic pain. Wow. And that is the secret weapon of this strategy. Mm. Retargeting. Okay. The co-pilot we discussed earlier isn’t just answering phones. They’re analyzing the data on the back end.
Right. They’re tracking exactly who watches at least 25% of that eight-minute video. If a local user sits through two full minutes of a doctor explaining a lumbar adjustment- They’re raising their hand They have intent They have real intent. The system then continually serves that specific person the clinic’s other ads, building immense trust over multiple touchpoints.
Yeah. So by the time they finally click, they feel like they already know the doctor Which brings us [00:10:00] to the most critical part of this entire deep dive. Yes. They watch the videos, the retargeting worked, they click the ad, and the lead is sitting right there in your co-pilot’s dashboard. Mm-hmm. How do you get them off the internet and physically onto the adjustment table without them ghosting you?
You have to present an offer that eliminates friction but still demands commitment. Okay. Dr. Noel Lloyd’s participants utilize a very specific package, a $67 offer. $67. Right. And this isn’t just a quick consultation. It includes the consultation, a full evaluation, a review of any existing X-rays or MRIs, and crucially, the first actual treatment.
Wow, okay. Depending on the patient, that could be cervical, lumbar, knee decompression, and an adjustment. It is a massive delivery of value for a very specific price. So let’s unpack the psychology of that specific number. Why 67? Right. I mean, why not make it a free consultation just to get them in the door, or charge $150 to show premium value?
Because free consultations [00:11:00] attract freebie seekers. You end up filling your waiting room with people who have zero intention of ever committing to a long-term care plan. Yeah, which just wastes the doctor’s clinical time. Exactly. On the other end, if you charge $150 for an initial internet offer, it triggers a major psychological barrier.
Right. The lead thinks, “I need to check my budget,” or, “I need to talk to my spouse.” The friction is just too high for a cold internet lead. Sixty-seven dollars hits the sweet spot. Ah, I see. It’s a low enough barrier to entry that it functions as an impulse purchase for pain relief, but it requires just enough financial skin in the game to weed out the people who aren’t serious.
And the follow-up protocol to lock in that $67 is relentless. Facebook leads are called the second they come in. Google leads are texted instantly. Instantly. But the absolute game changer, the mechanism that finally sews up that hole in the net, is the reservation fee. The reservation fee is the ultimate filter.
Yeah. It transitions the lead from a passive internet [00:12:00] scroller into an active, financially committed patient. I actually want to read the exact script a participant shared in the session because it’s brilliant. Please do. They literally print this out and taped it by every single phone in their office to eliminate any hesitation from the staff.
So when the co-pilot gets the lead on the phone and confirms the appointment time, they say, “To reserve your spot, we’ll take care of the $67 payment over the phone now. Appointments fill quickly. This guarantees your time is secured, and I’m ready for the card number whenever you are.” I’m ready for the card number whenever you are.
Yeah. Notice the phrasing there. It isn’t a question. Right. They aren’t asking, “Would you like to pay now or in the office?” Yeah. They are stating the policy with absolute confidence. And the success rate is staggering. Oh, I bet. One clinic reported getting the credit card on file over the phone nine out of 10 times using that exact script.
Wait, nine out of 10? Nine out of 10. But let’s be real about human nature for a second. Front desk staff [00:13:00] often hate asking for money over the phone. Oh, they despise it. It feels pushy. It’s really uncomfortable. Hmm. So how do you guarantee your co-pilot actually uses the script and drives that commitment?
You align their financial incentives with the clinic’s growth. Hmm. One participant uses a brilliant bounty system. They pay their co-pilot a $25 cash bonus for every single patient they schedule who actually walks through the door and shows up for their appointment. That completely transforms the culture of the front desk.
Completely. The co-pilot is no longer just a receptionist doing a task. They have a direct stake in the outcome. When they hear the phone ring, they don’t hear an interruption to their paperwork. They hear $25. Exactly. It guarantees they ask for the card with confidence. That makes total sense.
And the behavioral psychology here works on both ends, you know? The co-pilot is highly motivated to secure the appointment, and the patient is now financially committed. Right. The psychological pain of losing a $67 [00:14:00] reservation fee is significantly stronger than the minor friction of driving across town to the clinic.
So true. It drastically reduces that painful and expensive no-show rate that plagues most chiropractic marketing campaigns. Man, the mechanics of this system are just airtight. You have the $7 training camp ads, the eight-minute retargeting, the $67 psychological sweet spot, and an incentivized co-pilot locking it down with a reservation fee.
It’s machine. But, you know, the Internet doesn’t stand still. Never. Mastering Facebook and Google is playing today’s game. What Dr. Noel Lloyd’s session revealed is that the top-tier clinics are already building a digital moat against tomorrow’s landscape. And tomorrow is entirely driven by artificial intelligence.
Yeah. The reliance on traditional Google searches is fracturing. Patients are already beginning to use AI platforms like ChatGPT, Perplexity, Grok, and Gemini to find local healthcare providers. Right. So the most forward-thinking [00:15:00] clinics are dedicating about 30 minutes a week to a process they call loading the AI.
Loading an AI, I mean, th- that sounds like something out of a sci-fi movie. How does a local chiropractor actually execute that? Well, you have to understand how large language models work. Yeah. ChatGPT doesn’t just pull a list of index links the way early Google did. Right. It synthesizes information by scraping the entire web.
To load the AI, you have to feed it data where it naturally looks. So these clinics are systematically updating third-party directory sites, places like Zocdoc, WebMD, Yelp, and Healthgrades with incredibly robust, specific content. Oh, so they aren’t just putting their hours of operation and a phone number.
No, not at all. They’re answering long-tail patient questions. Precisely. They’re going onto their Yelp profiles- Yeah … and writing detailed Q&As, things like, “What are the most common causes of sciatica in our city?” Or, “How does spinal decompression treat herniated discs?” Right. Right. But populating these high authority third-party sites with detailed, localized medical answers, [00:16:00] the LLMs just scrape that data.
So when a potential patient opens the ChatGPT app on their phone and types, “I have severe low back pain shooting down my leg. Who’s the best doctor near me to fix it?” The AI synthesizes all those Yelp and Zocdoc answers and spits out your specific clinic as the definitive singular recommendation. Yes.
You’re no longer trying to hack an algorithm with a bunch of stuffed keywords. You’re genuinely establishing a massive authoritative footprint across the internet. Here’s where it gets really interesting though. Are we just trying to trick the AI, or does this force us to genuinely become the ultimate authority everywhere online?
You’re actually becoming the authority. Yeah. And what’s most critical about this strategy is understanding who you’re actually competing against in this space. Well, it’s natural to assume we’re competing against massive hospital systems with, you know, endless marketing budgets. Right, but hospitals burn through astronomical ad budgets, and they move incredibly [00:17:00] slowly when it comes to localized digital strategy.
Plus, they aren’t exactly efficient at chiropractic care. Exactly. Your real competition is simply the digital complacency of other local chiropractors. Oh, wow. That is a massive paradigm shift. It really is. Most of your local competitors are still just trying to figure out how to post a graphic on Facebook.
Yeah, that’s true. By mastering these AI search protocols now, dedicating just 30 minutes a week to loading these platforms with robust answers, you’re building an insurmountable digital moat. I see. By the time the clinic down the street realizes that AI is the primary way patients are finding doctors, you’ll already be hard-coded into the foundation of these AI models as the definitive local expert.
You’re basically building the future infrastructure of your practice today. Man, from installing the co-pilot and the $7 ad strategy to the $67 reservation fee and future-proofing with AI, I mean, this is a literal masterclass in practice growth. It’s a [00:18:00] comprehensive, highly aggressive system, and you know, I wanna leave you with a final thought to mull over today as you look at your own practice.
Okay. Mm-hmm. What if your biggest competitor isn’t the giant hospital system down the street? Mm-hmm. What if it isn’t even the other chiropractor across town with the flashy billboard? Yeah. What if your biggest competitor is simply your own clinic’s delay in answering a text message on a Saturday afternoon?
Man, that hits hard. The tear in the net might just be your own response time. But the incredible news is you now have the exact blueprint to fix it. You do. Now, as proud members of the Five-Star Management team, we don’t just wanna give you the theory behind these strategies, right? We wanna help you actually execute them in your own clinic.
Right. Execution is everything. Exactly. So we have three distinct ways to help you take action right now. First, if you wanna implement this co-pilot system and these AI strategies into your practice immediately, book a free call with Dr. George Birnbach.
He is an absolute master at integrating these systems. He [00:19:00] really is, and you can find the link to book that free call right in the show notes of this deep dive. Perfect. Second, if you wanna truly master these mechanics in person and surround yourself with other high-level doctors who are scaling aggressively, you need to come to our live two-day event in Chicago, Illinois.
Oh, it’s gonna be incredible. It’s happening on July 25th and 26th, and it’s called Streamline, Scale, Succeed. It will fundamentally change the trajectory of your entire year. The link to register for Chicago is also right there in the show notes. Don’t miss that one. And finally, don’t forget to subscribe to the Successful Chiro podcast.
We are delivering weekly tips, actionable strategies, and deep dives just like this one to help you grow your practice. Start repairing that net today. You know, get your co-pilot trained, set those guardrails, and stop letting your hard-earned leads slip back into the water. Absolutely. Thank you so much for joining us on this chiropractic deep dive.
We will catch you on the next one.